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Continuing the theme, please confine posts to confirmed movements to help keep it tidy. Thanks.
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A321 on the TAP flight today - CS-TJF
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B777-300ER for Ek19 (A6-ECY)
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BD593 G-MIDS, A320 in Star Alliance Coulours for shuttle to London.
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1 for tomorrow-:

ABR101J Arr 0600 EI-STA 737
ABR401J Dep 0700 Sunday 27 may

Steve
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LY_SKA 737-3 Arriving shortly to commence ops for Fly be.

Monday we have-:

ABR402J 0030 737 EI-STA Dep at 0120 as ABR102J
also i presume this is coming in for TOM ops..... JAF111P Arr 0700 (No Reg)

Steve
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OK-TVL Travel Service B738 due in 10 mins as EXS41A positioning in to operate for Jet2.
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Hi all,

wonder if anyone could help me. I seen a plane going over Stockport between 12:30pm-13:00pm today it looked like a CRJ/Fokker 100 with a yellow tail.


Thanks
happy
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why are flybe using a 737???
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FlyBe have a DHC8-400 grounded at IOM following a nasty impact from a ground vehicle. It sounds like the repair will be a long and expensive job. There may be other factors, but this is one aircraft which will be requiring substitute cover for quite a while.
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Just had a couple of go arounds at MAN due a BA A319 reporting it hit 2 birds on takeoff roll. BA 734 and PIA 772 had to go around to runway being swept.
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This post was edited on Tuesday 29th May, 2012 at 16:20 GMT
Aurela 737-300 LY-SKA on finals into MAN on FR24. FR24 states it is operating BE297 MAN-EDI but I think it has got it the wrong way round as it is clearly on finals into MAN and I have seen it with my own eyes through bins. Can any one shed light on this for me please.
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SE-RFS B767 on decent into Manchester
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SE-RFS = formerly G-OBYB. Must be operating a TOM flight.

As for BE, they are down a plane following an incident in the Isle of Man. A 733 might well have been all they could source at short notice.
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Does anyone know if the DHL 767 is departing today? Cheers!
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G-THOO coming out of Air Livery in Air Baltic cols
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Posted Photo

Parked up overnight, in to operate for MON I believe.

Great colour scheme in my opinion...
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Got to see the Air Finland today, think it's positioned back now, pointless visit?! Or was it not here for Monarch?

Also, me and Rob saw an emergency landing with a light aircraft today, any info on this?

Cheers.
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Quote Quoting Skylinerworld, from a previous post

Got to see the Air Finland today, think it's positioned back now, pointless visit?! Or was it not here for Monarch?


It positioned in on 29th I think, hasn't done a flight for MON
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It was in Thomas Cook hangar for maintenance, not sure if it was 'flying for anyone'.
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Just been informed the Virgin 747 is making an emergency landing. Any news on this?

Rick
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It's making it's way into the stands now with a trail of Emergency vehicles behind it.
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This post was edited on Friday 1st June, 2012 at 10:55 GMT
Nope - Emergency vehicles have stayed over the south side while the Virgin makes it's way in. It did seem a bit weird the way the 747 taxi'd in from runway 2, at this time of day.
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Anyone know why MON533 A300 from Palma was diverted to LPL, just flew over my house about 10 mins ago, is the Virgin emergency landing still causing problems ?
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Quote Quoting Elvistheblue, from a previous post

Nope - Emergency vehicles have stayed over the south side while the Virgin makes it's way in. It did seem a bit weird the way the 747 taxi'd in from runway 2, at this time of day.


Fire engines followed the VIR 744 onto stand 85, came in under local standby.

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Anyone know why MON533 A300 from Palma was diverted to LPL, just flew over my house about 10 mins ago, is the Virgin emergency landing still causing problems ?


Low on fuel due to long holding times
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Thank Sam-at-Man
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Quote Quoting Sam-at-MAN, from a previous post

Low on fuel due to long holding times


I realise there are various factors affecting how much holding fuel an aircraft has, but I do find it rather puzzling that on occasions flights to MAN can only manage a couple of holds at most before diverting
whereas at LHR holding delays of 40 minutes or longer perhaps result in the odd divert or usually none at all.
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Flights into busier airports such as LHR are usually planned to carry more fuel to account for holding times. For airports such as MAN, the majority of airlines will probably only carry enough fuel to allow 10-15 minutes of holding before they have to divert to elsewhere.
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Quote Quoting MANDIV, from a previous post

I realise there are various factors affecting how much holding fuel an aircraft has, but I do find it rather puzzling that on occasions flights to MAN can only manage a couple of holds at most before diverting
whereas at LHR holding delays of 40 minutes or longer perhaps result in the odd divert or usually none at all.


I suppose it's down to flight planning.
At LHR you expect to hold for a long period therefore carry the fuel for that.
At MAN you don't expect more than once round even if you're unlucky so you carry the fuel for that scenario.

It would be quite expensive carrying the weight of fuel around to cover all eventualities I guess.
Sometimes a flight gets unlucky. MAN is the beneficiary of that sometimes, in this case it lost a flight.
Swings and roundabouts.
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Quote Quoting The Middle Marker, from a previous post

I suppose it's down to flight planning.
At LHR you expect to hold for a long period therefore carry the fuel for that.
At MAN you don't expect more than once round even if you're unlucky so you carry the fuel for that scenario.

It would be quite expensive carrying the weight of fuel around to cover all eventualities I guess.
Sometimes a flight gets unlucky. MAN is the beneficiary of that sometimes, in this case it lost a flight.
Swings and roundabouts.


Spot on.

Also at MAN we have a fair number of charter flights coming from fairly short runways in the Greek Islands, or 737s taking off from hot places like Egypt, where carrying huge amounts of fuel would mean a payload reduction on takeoff.
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Tonight we have-:

ZB1399/ZB1399P Arr 2245 Dep 2350 A321 I-AIGJ.

Tomorrow we have-:

CJ110p/BA4511 Arr 0800 Dep 0840 E190 G-LCYK
A3 4550/A3 4551 Arr 0830 dep 0915 A320 SX-DVU
BRU853/BRU854 Arr 1020 Dep 1120 EW294PA 737
CJ114P/BA4513 Arr 1155 dep 1235 G-LCYE E170
CJ102P/BA4523 arr 1440 Dep 1540 G-LCYJ E190..

Have a good Jubilee Weekend Folks.... Im now off work until Tuesday..... Stella up..... Cheers

Steve
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Reg'n of ATR72 freighter that departed 10 mins ago anyone? Looked like LY-...
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Any idea why Monarch 1874 B752 G-DAJB is circling over Leeds? Presumably to burn fuel but does anyone know the reason why. Supposed to be on this flight in 3 weeks!
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Quote Quoting Interflug_62, from a previous post

Reg'n of ATR72 freighter that departed 10 mins ago anyone? Looked like LY-...


LY-ETM
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Apparently, that's the 3rd time this week G-DAJB has had a technical problem.
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G-DAJB was only in the Engine test bay earlier, so that may be a test flight.
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No it wasn't - it was operating a much delayed flight to Mytilene. It was reported on the airport's website as having departed.
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Quote Quoting Sam-at-MAN, from a previous post

Also at MAN we have a fair number of charter flights coming from fairly short runways in the Greek Islands, or 737s taking off from hot places like Egypt, where carrying huge amounts of fuel would mean a payload reduction on takeoff.

the alternates for our flights wouldn't take much in the way of holding either. Diversion fuel to LPL, LBA or even dear ol Blackpool won't be that excessive!

Liverpool can take anything up to a 747 (and has done), and an A333 is a regular on football flights.
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I don`t think LPL handles B747s anymore as there is a weight restriction there now
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There was a Corsair one in a few years ago
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This post was edited on Sunday 3rd June, 2012 at 11:04 GMT
But not recently as they are having problems with the taxiway cracking so a weight restriction has been put in to save having to rebuild completely
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TC-JBI A320 Anadolu Jet has just arrived on the THY1995/7KZ

Andy
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TC-JBI 'new' Turkish A320 (delivered to them 7 days ago) just arrived on the TK1995.
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This post was edited on Monday 4th June, 2012 at 17:44 GMT
This is showing as a departure for tomorrow.

HRM2015 07:00 Gothenburg Scheduled 07:00

Now has a clue about the airline! It's Hermes Airlines of Greece and is a subsidiary of Air Méditerranée
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Tomorrow we have-:

Friday 8/6/12 Arr 1000 RR001D E3D. Presume for painting as it has no departure time.

Steve
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Hey all,

Does anyone have any clue how long Adria Airways are sticking around for as the Manchester Airport website states that the route is valid until the 9th of June 2012??

Many thanks
Rob
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QR9707 departing 23:00 on departure boards: is this our normal flight rescheduled because of the fuel issues, usual A330 i imagine?
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The site is broken .

Try Tel Aviv and that shows just one flight in the next six months and thats just not true.
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Quote Quoting Interflug_62, from a previous post

QR9707 departing 23:00 on departure boards: is this our normal flight rescheduled because of the fuel issues, usual A330 i imagine?


This is a computer glitch..... Our QR departed on timehappy

Steve
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OK, thanks, explains why i couldn't find flight listed on any other websites.
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Quote Quoting Interflug_62, from a previous post

QR9707 departing 23:00 on departure boards: is this our normal flight rescheduled because of the fuel issues, usual A330 i imagine?


it was a test flight to test some QR systems
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Just landed RAF E-3 for Air Livery
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Is the China Southern 747 in the movements section true or utter shite.
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Quote Quoting jaylime, from a previous post

Is the China Southern 747 in the movements section true or utter shite.

Probably the latter, given that, to the best of my knowledge, China Southern don't operate 747's.
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Its actually true, its a freight movement on a B747F (probably using the ex-great wall examples)
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China Southern do indeed operate the 747 in their cargo division. As said in the movements section the flight is op by a 747F......
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You beat me to it world-rep as far as i know they have got 2 aircraft B-2461 and B-2473 both 747f
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I think its picking up some pigs destined for China if I remember.
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Quote Quoting world_rep, from a previous post

Its actually true, its a freight movement on a B747F (probably using the ex-great wall examples)

My mistake! I hadn't realised that is was a freight movement.

However, contrary to the details displayed on the Home page, I assume that this morning's Korean Air Cargo movement was, in fact, an inbound delivery of more Black Knights aircraft (i.e. rather than a collect and return), given that, if my memory serves me correctly, they (the Black Knights) are due to display at RIAT and Waddington.
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Yes the info was slightly incorrect, but at least the movement actually happened (for once)
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Quote Quoting world_rep, from a previous post

at least the movement actually happened (for once)

A good point, well made!
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Quote Quoting world_rep, from a previous post

I think its picking up some pigs destined for China if I remember.


The jet age has made the impossible possible, pigs will fly.
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