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Photography Forum | How can the sun be in two places at the same time?
I'd love to upsmd11, but they're still in the screening queue awaiting my response and there doesn't seem to be any way of including them as part of a Forum post, i.e. they haven't been added to the P-M photo gallery, but nor have they been formally 'rejected'.
You and me both!
Judging by the standard of your photos, I doubt that many of them will end up in the "Awaiting Your Response" queue! Nice overhead pic of Liverpool on JP by the way.
This can be found in the rejection e-mail next to the "View online:" line. If you paste that URL into the "Include a picture hosted on another site" icon at the top of the forum post then the picture itself with show in the forum post. Just post the URL though and people will still be able to click to see the images.
In your case, the sun is to your right hand side somewhere. In this image we see an overexposed nose of the aircraft and left the rest of the plane, with a dark, dull lifeless look. For that reason I would say a "Backlit" rejection is justified.
What you might find happens as the aircraft to be infront of you, the sun may illuminate aircraft better.
Hope that helps.
Baltimore, Brain, you should always enjoy your photography and to upload to these sites should be a further enjoyment. Take photos for yourself and if they are to the standards demanded by these sites, thats a bonus.
Some images will have technical issues that will render them unacceptable from the moment the shutter button is pressed, if that happens such as in these backlit cases It's easier to move on.
Don't get wound up about it, and remember at that time at that spot you get backlit rejections, dont go there again at that time!
Hope that helps.
Sorry, it looks to me like the sun is between you and the aircraft, not behind you or the aircraft. Resulting in the backlit look.
I promise (hand on heart!) that the sun was behind me when I took the 'offending' shot.
you should always enjoy your photography and to upload to these sites should be a further enjoyment. Take photos for yourself and if they are to the standards demanded by these sites, thats a bonus.
In raising the issue of 'backlighting' (if, indeed, there is such a word?!), I was merely seeking to clarify my understanding of the said issue. I was always taught that, if you take a photo facing away from the sun, then it cannot be 'backlit'. Obviously that is not the case and I will henceforth do my best to avoid falling into the same trap again. As you rightly suggest, photography is a hobby to be enjoyed and it is only by making mistakes that one (eventually!) learns to improve.
Some images will have technical issues that will render them unacceptable from the moment the shutter button is pressed
'Backlit' is probably the most simple rejection reason to explain so I don't see why you are failing to see the sun is NOT illuminating the side of the aircraft you photographed, meaning its backlit
Thanks for that Sam. Your 'constructive' criticism is, as always, gratefully received! Strictly speaking, for a photo to be backlit, the sun needs to be behind the subject - which it wasn't on this occasion. However, I think enough hairs have already been split in this particular regard, so I don't intend labouring the point any further.
I have it on good authority that backlit photos can be "easily fixed" using the Photoshop Shadow/Highlight Tool. However, as I don't have access to Photoshop, that piece of information is about as much use to me as a fart in a force 10 gale!
The sun isn't "lighting up" the side of the aircraft in the picture
Serious question - can a subject still be backlit if the sun isn't shining?
Well spotted that man - yes it is over-sharpened. As for being quite grainy too, we're all entitled to our own 'humble' opinion and I respect yours in the same way that I do everyone else's.
A photo can still be backlit if the sun is not shining, it often happens in cloud, where a photographer stands in a backlit location it will still blow out the sky. But it can potentially be hidden if the cloud is thick enough.
As for Shadows and Highlights its useful for photos with excess contrast, where its just a touch out, that's it. NO amount of editing will save a backlit photo. Sorry.
Don't try to save them, because it wont happen.
Also Shadows and Highlights, if used to excess will decrease your contrast and leave you with a wishy, washy looking photo.
No hard feelings, but I guarantee that, if I'd uploaded this shot (a 'Screeners' Choice', no less!) it would have been rejected on the grounds of being backlit!
Guarantee you it wouldn't have been... I don't know if you're accusing us (me, as I screened that shot) as biased in some way or other?
That shot is a silhouette, not a 'backlit' shot, and is clearly taken at sunrise / sunset.
I took two photos from exactly the same spot facing in the opposite direction to one another, i.e. one facing almost exactly due East and the other facing almost exactly due West. Both have been rejected for being backlit.
Considering you stated this in the opening post but only posted one rejected shot, in which the near side of the plane was in shadow i.e. probably the reason that was rejected for backlit, I'm now locking the thread.
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