Photography Forum | Screening.

I am tired of getting rejections, fair enough. But then seeing other users have tonnes of images uploaded constantly without fail that seem to have obvious pit falls that the screeners turn a blind eye to. There are screeners clearly on this website who are bias and unfair. I am suprised there arent other users complaining about this. This is totally out of order, i am happy to show examples.

Perhaps if you could show the screeners which pictures you are unhappy with instead of calling them might help matters.

I can relate to this. I've had the odd photo rejected for one reason and then rejected for a totally different reason by someone else. Would of saved time to just of known the two reasons on the first Reject.

If you post the photo's I'm sure someone will be able to offer some tips and piece of advise, or fix any problems that currently exist within the screening system.

Yes, but how do you 'show' the screeners, the screeners make a dicision and thats that without re-uploading a different photo?

Post the pictures on this thread

Like I said post your pictures here instead of constantly battering the screeners

You will need either Flickr or Photobucket to post pictures

Cant you just find it with that ID?

The admin might be able too but not the screeners

Well with that the admin need to sort out this forum image posting issue
Anyway, this is the photo, but regardless my point is different?

http://screening-photos.plane-mad.com/23719/1/main.jpg

It's grainy, little blurry and a tad over sharp in places.

What did i say stu? I understand what the screener has said, fair enough, knock the photo go for it! But my point is differen, you screeners deliberatly turn a blind eye and favour other members. So stop avoiding my point becouse you dont want to answer it.

No screeners turn a blind eye to anything.

Screeners are not robots. One person could see a picture differently to the next person. You're being unfair to say they're bias or turn a blind eye.

Ban me for a having a point of veiw? This is rediculous!

Sorry you feel that way but as Sam says, no one turns a blind eye.

Ban?? Come one thats a bit extreme. He is just expressing his concerns.

I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Believe me, the standards imposed by the screeners on the majority of other aviation-oriented sites are far stricter than those applied on P-M. Screeners are only human and will, on the odd occasion, take decisions that others might not necessarily agree with. It is, perhaps, also worth remembering that the screeners (and site moderators!) give up a not inconsiderable amount of their own spare time to perform what is often a pretty thankless task and that, without their valuable input, P-M would very quickly cease to exist.

Baltimore
Site Moderator

Ban? Very mature Sam-at-MAN...

The reason many members have so many pictures online is because 1:- they have been long time members and lots of uploads and 2:- they consistently contribute high standards. Are you saying they should be getting rejected because they have more accepted than you?


secondly the screeners use different machines/screens and browsers, this can make pictures look vastly different.

Thirdly, All photo's are subjected to the same process,screeners are not biased toward any member in a positive or negative manner. if you are getting rejections start by improving yourself rather than take a shot at something you clearly don't understand..



Also looks 'Foggy' as if taken in misty conditions, weak colour and saturation. Hence:-


this is a site message, a picture can be rejected for coulour and the system automatically sends out this message.

757man, just as a matter of interest, what, if any, post-editing software package are you using?

Try re-sizing it to 1024 px and sharpening it a bit, also boost the contrast.

Here's a quick touch up to give you an idea

Aircraft almost merges with the sky now, but yes them techniques are things to try.

ban? there was no need for that... i agree with some of the stuff he's saying there though i have also received rude types of comments off the screener's before.

I know, it was just a quick edit and I didn't have the original image to play with, but it gives him a rough idea of what needs doing to the image to get it up to scratch.

Do you actually mean "rude comments" or were they simply comments that you disagreed with?

Well im sorry i find it rediculous how users like flcriminal seem to have thousands and a 97% acceptance, its clear the screeners are just letting long term users through like there vip's you need to sort this out.

If any member receives 'rude' comments from a member of the P-M team then it should be reported to the mods immeadiately. Please let's not get all 'jump on the band wagon' here. There are very simple ways of getting situations like this on P-M sorted, but slagging off the team isn't one of them. Let's not forget that some of these people that are being questioned here are actually digging deep into their own pockets to keep this site live.

There will always be opinions and views and many will conflict, that goes for both uploaders and screeners/mods, we're all equal - but the team should surely be respected for the amount of damned hard work that they put in day in, day out. Any abuse of a P-M team member won't be tolerated - if you have an issue, by all means air it, but please... do it in a nice manner. Such a shame that I keep having to say this.

Now, let's all play nicely please.

Site mod

Has it not occured to you that it might be because flcriminal is a very skilfull photographer who actually knows how to use a camera!

The chip on your shoulder seems to be growing larger by the minute and you are starting to tread a very fine line between putting your point across and trading insults with other members - which will not be tolerated on P-M.

We have all had photos rejected in the past and, yes, like you, I used to get extremely agrravated with the screeners. However, to qoute bluechalk, I eventually learned to bite the bullet, move on and to try to get it right next time. 40 per cent of my pics still end up being rejected, but at least I now try to learn from my mistakes...rather than banging my head against a brick wall.

Baltimore
Site Moderator

Motion seconded, subject to the proviso that they do it in a polite and respectful manner.
Like I said in my previous post, although I've now got nearly 400 photos displayed on P-M, it's taken me 18 months to get to where I am now and over 40 per cent of my shots (over 250 in total) are still rejected by the screeners. Yes, there are times when I could quite easily have punched the screeners lights out (metaphorically speaking), but I've moved on and learnt to live with it. Photography is, after all, a hobby for most of us and it really isn't worth busting a blood vessel simply because your pics end up being rejected. Do what I do and put them on Flickr, where everyone can see them and make their own judgement.

For the record, Sam-at-MAN stopped being a screener some time ago.

Okay well i dont think anyones going to admit to this but is quite visible.. members are getting favoured. I put photos on flickr aswell and i just think that for startup members, im only on 29 photos when other members steam ahead like its flickr, when theyre photos again as ive said have pit falls, everyone seems to have ignored the example photo i posted..?

Okay, well im not sure, thankyou for all your responces, but my point isnt over this photo as i have said! Yeah why not get quad cores lol.

Also he is 1 of the earliest members so ergo he's been upolading a long time. That's how he has got so many online not to mention the fact everything he contributes is of the highest standard.



The J.A.F 747??? considering the foggy conditions the aircraft in question is perfectly sharp, yes it's got a grey-ish tone but obviously caused by weather conditions at the time.


Got, well quad core (i7) CS6 and hooked up to 40" HD screen.

YES, the JAF surely becouse of the quality of the image its a rejection regardless im always shooting in cloud and get rejections for the noisy, soft. This is what i mean a user seemed to be excused while others get a rejection when the issue is exactly the same.

Thanks for the contribution on your PC specs not sure how that contributes in any way, but thats nice.. ?

I probably have no place to say but from my experience when i got cross with screeners i then got banned but then stood back and thought, i stop uploading and just enjoy the hobby instead rather than get acceptance ratios in the 90%'s and lots of comments and views.

When Facebook came along i uploaded to there and got nice views and comments from friends and have a Flickr account too which is also good. Iam probably nowhere near as good as others on here but i thank people like Whitehatter (Roy) and Sam and others for getting me started in 2008 to present. They really helped me which was nice.

Try to ask from the beginning, before 2008 i was uploading to the Gatwick section and using irfanview for editing when they helped me get onto the Fuji and Photoshop and later on Canon and good techniques. I just remember that iam lucky to have good friends on here like Roy and Sam and others, they didnt have to help they were just kind and offered me assistance which was very nice.

Examples? so far all you've shown us is a perfectly acceptable picture and called it in to question and compared it to your unacceptable 1.


if you believe this yourself why use it to point out the fact it was rejected?


that was done when it was rejected.


this is simply your opinion,totally lacking any evidence.


prove it!!!! if.........



oh and 1 other note,please use a spellchecker

The site doesn't prioritise anyone here, and there are certainly no favourites. I screened on plane mad for a while until real life commitments took over and I never once saw favouritism, only professionalism from the team here. Every now and them the team make mistakes, just like any other website in the world, we're only human. I can assure you that any photos that are of questionable quality and are accepted, rightly or wrongly, are usually questioned in the screeners forum and discussed at length.

To be honest, I doubt many screeners even look at the photographers name when screening. When the queue is filling up fast you're concentrating on screening the photo to the best of your abilities, not spending time looking who has taken the photo.

Seems to me that you're ever so slightly jealous of those who have superior photography and editing skills, so decided to vent your anger on the forums?

If you don't like the way plane-mad is run, then trot along to the other bigger, and much stricter websites and you'll soon have something to cry about.

Sam

Maybe you could also try capital letters and correct punctuation, if it's so important?

Okay guys, I think this 'debate' has probably run its course, not least by virtue of the fact that it has started to go round in ever decreasing circles!

As the current 'owner' of Plane-Mad, I can categorically state that I have absolute confidence in the screening team. Yes, they sometimes take decisions that others might not agree with, but 99 per cent of the time they get it right. I'm sorry, but, if you disagree with my last statement, I can do little more than suggest (very politely) that you take your patronage elsewhere, because there is no way that I am going to 'fire' or, indeed, censure any member(s) of the screening team when, in my humble opinion, they are doing a superb job in what can be exceptionally trying circumstances. End of...