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They say the photo has unrealistic colours, but i have seen far worse constantly uploaded in blocks from some users, my issue is screeners turning a blind eye and being bias.
if that didnt work the ID is 23719
Anyway, this is the photo, but regardless my point is different?
secondly the screeners use different machines/screens and browsers, this can make pictures look vastly different.
Thirdly, All photo's are subjected to the same process,screeners are not biased toward any member in a positive or negative manner. if you are getting rejections start by improving yourself rather than take a shot at something you clearly don't understand..
Also looks 'Foggy' as if taken in misty conditions, weak colour and saturation. Hence:-
this is a site message, a picture can be rejected for coulour and the system automatically sends out this message.
the hardest thing to learn when making submissions on all aviation sites is to bite the bullet and move on and try to get it right next time as upsmd11 says different machines / /browsers this also applies to the contributers
There will always be opinions and views and many will conflict, that goes for both uploaders and screeners/mods, we're all equal - but the team should surely be respected for the amount of damned hard work that they put in day in, day out. Any abuse of a P-M team member won't be tolerated - if you have an issue, by all means air it, but please... do it in a nice manner. Such a shame that I keep having to say this.
Now, let's all play nicely please.
Has it not occured to you that it might be because flcriminal is a very skilfull photographer who actually knows how to use a camera!
The chip on your shoulder seems to be growing larger by the minute and you are starting to tread a very fine line between putting your point across and trading insults with other members - which will not be tolerated on P-M.
We have all had photos rejected in the past and, yes, like you, I used to get extremely agrravated with the screeners. However, to qoute bluechalk, I eventually learned to bite the bullet, move on and to try to get it right next time. 40 per cent of my pics still end up being rejected, but at least I now try to learn from my mistakes...rather than banging my head against a brick wall.
I beleive everyone on this sight has the right to express there opinion as stu said, i like this sight but i continuesly see long term members almost enjoying the benefits of there loyalty to the site while smaller members get aggravated at constant rejections which are just ignored with other members.
Also ive had people like sam just wanting to ban me, for speaking out about this. Very immature but nothing happens to him when he insults a member like that and hes a screener?!
I beleive everyone on this sight has the right to express there opinion
Motion seconded, subject to the proviso that they do it in a polite and respectful manner.
smaller members get aggravated at constant rejections which are just ignored with other members.
Like I said in my previous post, although I've now got nearly 400 photos displayed on P-M, it's taken me 18 months to get to where I am now and over 40 per cent of my shots (over 250 in total) are still rejected by the screeners. Yes, there are times when I could quite easily have punched the screeners lights out (metaphorically speaking), but I've moved on and learnt to live with it. Photography is, after all, a hobby for most of us and it really isn't worth busting a blood vessel simply because your pics end up being rejected. Do what I do and put them on Flickr, where everyone can see them and make their own judgement.
For the record, Sam-at-MAN stopped being a screener some time ago.
on a lighter note i believe james as site moderater should make it a condition of membership that each member be given a free pc/mac and display of their choice with preferebly quad core processor with adobe photoshop 6/ elements 10 pre installed????????
Has it not occurred to you that it might be because flcriminal is a very skillful photographer who actually knows how to use a camera!
Also he is 1 of the earliest members so ergo he's been upolading a long time. That's how he has got so many online not to mention the fact everything he contributes is of the highest standard.
The J.A.F 747??? considering the foggy conditions the aircraft in question is perfectly sharp, yes it's got a grey-ish tone but obviously caused by weather conditions at the time.
pc/mac and display of their choice with preferebly quad core processor with adobe photoshop 6
Got, well quad core (i7) CS6 and hooked up to 40" HD screen.
Thanks for the contribution on your PC specs not sure how that contributes in any way, but thats nice.. ?
People are paying from their own pocket to run this site (many of those who you're complaining about are paying to run this place) and no matter what anyone says, you refuse to listen
YES, the JAF surely becouse of the quality of the image its a rejection regardless im always shooting in cloud and get rejections for the noisy, soft. This is what i mean a user seemed to be excused while others get a rejection when the issue is exactly the same
It's not soft or noisy and the quality is acceptable. With your shot it's not even in focus, looks misty yet I get the impression it was not taken in misty conditions. There's lack of saturation.
It's what you wanted. Just wanted to save the mods a few quid.
as for 'preferential treatment' this shot of yours should NOT have been accepted.
So don't shoot in cloudy conditions, only you can change that.
When Facebook came along i uploaded to there and got nice views and comments from friends and have a Flickr account too which is also good. Iam probably nowhere near as good as others on here but i thank people like Whitehatter (Roy) and Sam and others for getting me started in 2008 to present. They really helped me which was nice.
Try to ask from the beginning, before 2008 i was uploading to the Gatwick section and using irfanview for editing when they helped me get onto the Fuji and Photoshop and later on Canon and good techniques. I just remember that iam lucky to have good friends on here like Roy and Sam and others, they didnt have to help they were just kind and offered me assistance which was very nice.
Why should my T50b shot not be exepted, its sharp, not noisy, level. So there would not be a preferential treatment?
i am complaining about photos that quite obvious pit falls are visible but overlooked or excused
Examples? so far all you've shown us is a perfectly acceptable picture and called it in to question and compared it to your unacceptable 1.
if you believe this yourself why use it to point out the fact it was rejected?
that was done when it was rejected.
this is simply your opinion,totally lacking any evidence.
prove it!!!! if.........
oh and 1 other note,please use a spellchecker
is not about my crap qaulity photo i am complaining about, i am complaining about photos that quite obviously have fit flls that are overlooked or excused.
I know what you mean by this and have seen the same thing happen on another site which I won't mention here.
That's a bit petty isn't it??
-robertuk has already said he can relate to what i am saying.
-I dont think it lacks evidence, you just arent listening to point im saying.
-Spellchecker, you forgot your grammer, capitals and full stops!
The site doesn't prioritise anyone here, and there are certainly no favourites. I screened on plane mad for a while until real life commitments took over and I never once saw favouritism, only professionalism from the team here. Every now and them the team make mistakes, just like any other website in the world, we're only human. I can assure you that any photos that are of questionable quality and are accepted, rightly or wrongly, are usually questioned in the screeners forum and discussed at length.
To be honest, I doubt many screeners even look at the photographers name when screening. When the queue is filling up fast you're concentrating on screening the photo to the best of your abilities, not spending time looking who has taken the photo.
Seems to me that you're ever so slightly jealous of those who have superior photography and editing skills, so decided to vent your anger on the forums?
If you don't like the way plane-mad is run, then trot along to the other bigger, and much stricter websites and you'll soon have something to cry about.
Seems to me that you're ever so slightly jealous of those who have superior photography and editing skills
I don't think it is jealousy Sam. I just think he is trying to express how he feels and people like you are shooting him down for having his own opinion. Just like the opinion you gave on the matter.
Maybe you could also try capital letters and correct punctuation, if it's so important?
Well im sorry i find it rediculous how users like flcriminal seem to have thousands and a 97% acceptance, its clear the screeners are just letting long term users through like there vip's you need to sort this out.
don't forget about : ....
bianrobi .. 98.84%
BMI Alan ... 97.60%
Felix ... 95.86%
Kevin Rowett.... 96.39%
Ian Marsh.... 90.59%
Alan P ..... 92.06%
skidmarks .... 100.00% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop moaning mate !!!! start learning!!!!
BTW it took me more than 3 years to get this 93 or something % and first photo was accepted after 6 months of trying.
As the current 'owner' of Plane-Mad, I can categorically state that I have absolute confidence in the screening team. Yes, they sometimes take decisions that others might not agree with, but 99 per cent of the time they get it right. I'm sorry, but, if you disagree with my last statement, I can do little more than suggest (very politely) that you take your patronage elsewhere, because there is no way that I am going to 'fire' or, indeed, censure any member(s) of the screening team when, in my humble opinion, they are doing a superb job in what can be exceptionally trying circumstances. End of...
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