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Gents,

As I mentioned on Baltimore's thread I recently recieved two helo rejections for crop which left me rather confused and wondering what the practise was on PM when it came to the cropping and composition of helos and rotor blades. I've always adopted a fairly standard practise in the past which is when a rotor blade is caught roughly straight ahead of the subject and the subject is also approximately side on then I will crop using the fuselage as the centre of the image, which sometimes requires part of the forward rotor blade to be cropped out. I've always believed this to be the more aesthetically pleasing approach as otherwise the whole image looks off-centre, with nothing but wasted space underneath the single forward rotor blade. Although PM can obviously adopt whatever practise it wants, and is not obligated to follow anybody else, this is pretty much accepted practise at other upload sites.

These are two examples which were rejected for crop;

http://screening-photos.plane-mad.com/26144/1/main.jpg

http://screening-photos.plane-mad.com/26122/2/main.jpg

I've looked carefully and cannot see any other issues, so it seems logical the 'crop' rejection is due to the points made above. What adds to the lack of clarity is that I have several other helo images in the database in which I also followed the above practise and were accepted with no issues. Examples here;

http://www.plane-mad.com/aviation-photos/view/uk-royal-air-force-(raf)/-/off-airport/39496.html

http://www.plane-mad.com/aviation-photos/view/usa-marine-corps/-/mildenhall/40632.html

http://www.plane-mad.com/aviation-photos/view/uk-royal-air-force-(raf)/-/off-airport/40810.html

All the above have been cropped in exactly the same manner as the rejected images, and there are others, from both myself and other photographers, but I've used just my own for discussion purposes. Interestingly, there are also some images where the blades have been intentionally left in the image, even if it does appear off-centre. So as far as I can tell, both approachs have been acceptable, up until the rejections above.

Just as an example, the link below is the rejected Apache image, re-cropped to include the full front rotor blade. If you compare that to the rejected link above, which looks the most balanced?

http://s410.photobucket.com/albums/pp189/gary1701/?action=view&current=IMG_0351-1.jpg

That just about covers it. What I'm looking for is some guidance as to what the PM screening practise is when it comes to helo rotor blades. I live next door to a major British helo base, and have a very large collection of helo images, which will obviously grow, and would like to upload further examples, but to save a lot of trouble really need to know what is acceptable and what isn't. I don't personally like the off-centre, leave all the blades in approach, but if that is what the site wants, then I will respect it and do it. However, I suspect it was probably just a mistake given the previous accepted images.

Just to also clarify the 'off-airport' practise when it comes to uploading images at airfields not currently listed (a lot of the military fields are not listed). I've been doing that regularly and about every 4/5 images I get a rejection for information, which then goes back in with a note reminding the screening team about the 'off-airport' situation (I usually include that in the note when first uploaded but it still sometimes gets missed). Is it possible for that to be made clear so that everybody is using a consistent practise?

Thoughts on the above are welcome.

Gary
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Hi Gary
From my personal POV the whole Rotor should be in frame unless it's a deliberate close up of the AC. When the tips are cut off it's not really about balance but more that it looks accidental and careless on the cropping.
Helis are a pain because to include all the rotor can knock them out of centre,but this is just because of the shape of the machine.
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